Comments on: Thoughts on Dieting http://www.chivalry.net/archives/2008/10/30/thoughts-on-dieting/ ... nothing fancy, just me Sun, 20 Mar 2011 03:33:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: comms http://www.chivalry.net/archives/2008/10/30/thoughts-on-dieting/comment-page-1/#comment-18210 comms Tue, 11 Nov 2008 05:59:24 +0000 http://www.chivalry.net/?p=427#comment-18210 +1 on commitment. It is the most important aspect of dieting along with motivation and accountability. Certain body types and genetic dispositions do lose or gain weight faster without depending on the mental/emotional aspects of how the person feels about food. I can be an emotional eater, just like some people can't eat when emotional. I am definitely a unconscious eater and if I am not exerting a lot of concentration on my nutritional intake I will eat much more food than I should. For the most part I eat quite healthy but my portion control is way off. +1 on commitment. It is the most important aspect of dieting along with motivation and accountability.

Certain body types and genetic dispositions do lose or gain weight faster without depending on the mental/emotional aspects of how the person feels about food.

I can be an emotional eater, just like some people can’t eat when emotional. I am definitely a unconscious eater and if I am not exerting a lot of concentration on my nutritional intake I will eat much more food than I should. For the most part I eat quite healthy but my portion control is way off.

]]> By: Chris http://www.chivalry.net/archives/2008/10/30/thoughts-on-dieting/comment-page-1/#comment-18196 Chris Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:59:30 +0000 http://www.chivalry.net/?p=427#comment-18196 The thought of trying to maintain a true race weight during the off-season or not training at all is pretty scary. I feel your pain, though. I can hold race weight during big volume IM training with minimal attention to detail with my diet. I think I could comfortably hold race weight + 10 in the off-season, though. You have more will power than me if you're able to hold your race weight all year round! Cliff: Good point on training and healthier eating going hand in hand. I know a lot of other people who would think the opposite - that's it's OK to eat worse while training because you're burning more calories. I think it's easier to adapt a good diet while training because the whole package constitutes a healthy lifestyle. When I'm not training, I know I'm not taking good care of myself and my diet definitely reflects that! The thought of trying to maintain a true race weight during the off-season or not training at all is pretty scary. I feel your pain, though. I can hold race weight during big volume IM training with minimal attention to detail with my diet. I think I could comfortably hold race weight + 10 in the off-season, though. You have more will power than me if you’re able to hold your race weight all year round!

Cliff: Good point on training and healthier eating going hand in hand. I know a lot of other people who would think the opposite – that’s it’s OK to eat worse while training because you’re burning more calories. I think it’s easier to adapt a good diet while training because the whole package constitutes a healthy lifestyle. When I’m not training, I know I’m not taking good care of myself and my diet definitely reflects that!

]]> By: Cliff http://www.chivalry.net/archives/2008/10/30/thoughts-on-dieting/comment-page-1/#comment-18195 Cliff Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:03:18 +0000 http://www.chivalry.net/?p=427#comment-18195 Dude, I love your URL icon :). I think it is learning to eat healthy..and being comfortable lifestyle balance.... Most people have no clue what diet is about...they try many clensing and figure that will be it..and the weight comes back. To change lifestyle is different..i won't say it is easy..it is diff. I mean...u can start eating say 10% healthy..90% your regular eating habit..get use to that..then go to 15% helahty.and so on I do find that once i start to train, my 'healhtier' eating ways get back on track. I alaways give myself allowance. Like 10% a week, eat anything I want and right now off season, I am eating free-er. Cheers, Cliff Dude,

I love your URL icon :). I think it is learning to eat healthy..and being comfortable lifestyle balance….

Most people have no clue what diet is about…they try many clensing and figure that will be it..and the weight comes back. To change lifestyle is different..i won’t say it is easy..it is diff.

I mean…u can start eating say 10% healthy..90% your regular eating habit..get use to that..then go to 15% helahty.and so on

I do find that once i start to train, my ‘healhtier’ eating ways get back on track. I alaways give myself allowance. Like 10% a week, eat anything I want and right now off season, I am eating free-er.

Cheers,
Cliff

]]> By: tarheeltri http://www.chivalry.net/archives/2008/10/30/thoughts-on-dieting/comment-page-1/#comment-18194 tarheeltri Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:50:03 +0000 http://www.chivalry.net/?p=427#comment-18194 I like the way I look at 160, but unless I was training for something serious like Ironman or La Ruta, I could never maintain it. I usually hovered around 168, even with 6-8 hours per week of training during triathlon season. I've finally turned the corner and have learned to maintain 160. It was all a matter of learning how to live on the edge of hungry versus satiated. I think that's most people's problem -- they feel they have to be satiated all the time. I like the way I look at 160, but unless I was training for something serious like Ironman or La Ruta, I could never maintain it. I usually hovered around 168, even with 6-8 hours per week of training during triathlon season. I’ve finally turned the corner and have learned to maintain 160. It was all a matter of learning how to live on the edge of hungry versus satiated. I think that’s most people’s problem — they feel they have to be satiated all the time.

]]> By: Chris http://www.chivalry.net/archives/2008/10/30/thoughts-on-dieting/comment-page-1/#comment-18193 Chris Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:25:23 +0000 http://www.chivalry.net/?p=427#comment-18193 I do think that 1500 cal/day is probably less than my BMR, even if I'm not doing anything. I don't think I have a BMR of 2500, though? If I had to guesstimate, I'd guess that it's somewhere just below 2000? I have a lazy desk job where I sit on my butt for most of the day. :) FWIW, I am trying to maintain a 1,000 calorie deficit every day. That should net me 7k calories for a week and be upwards of around 2 lbs. lost per week. I could eat a little more and suffer a little less, especially considering that I'm not racing until at least Spring of 2009. But I've made the decision to go full throttle at the diet in hopes of minimizing the length of the over all diet and getting into "maintenance" eating as soon as possible. It's a matter of suffer a lot for a short amount of time, or suffer a little less for longer. So far, I seem to have the will power to do the prior. I'll have to see if I can stick with it or not, though. "I wish it were as easy as wishing." I'll have to remember that next time for the critics. :) I do think that 1500 cal/day is probably less than my BMR, even if I’m not doing anything. I don’t think I have a BMR of 2500, though? If I had to guesstimate, I’d guess that it’s somewhere just below 2000? I have a lazy desk job where I sit on my butt for most of the day. :)

FWIW, I am trying to maintain a 1,000 calorie deficit every day. That should net me 7k calories for a week and be upwards of around 2 lbs. lost per week. I could eat a little more and suffer a little less, especially considering that I’m not racing until at least Spring of 2009. But I’ve made the decision to go full throttle at the diet in hopes of minimizing the length of the over all diet and getting into “maintenance” eating as soon as possible. It’s a matter of suffer a lot for a short amount of time, or suffer a little less for longer. So far, I seem to have the will power to do the prior. I’ll have to see if I can stick with it or not, though.

“I wish it were as easy as wishing.” I’ll have to remember that next time for the critics. :)

]]> By: 21stCenturyMom http://www.chivalry.net/archives/2008/10/30/thoughts-on-dieting/comment-page-1/#comment-18192 21stCenturyMom Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:24:51 +0000 http://www.chivalry.net/?p=427#comment-18192 There are tons of difference between how people feel about food and how they respond to hunger but I think you nailed the real, key differentiator - commitment. Once you commit to a plan and find one that works for you and stick with it the weight comes off. No amount of wishing will get you there - you have to do the work. You are a model for that. 1500 cal/day is certainly less than your BMR and you are probably running about a 2000 cal/day deficit with the workouts. My guess is that your BMR is about 2500 cal/day and you probably burn an extra 1000 for a total caloric need of 3500 cal/day. You could probably add back 500 calories a day and still reach your goal - it will just take a little longer. Maybe when people tell you they 'wish' they could do what you are doing you could smile and say "I wish it were as easy as wishing. I'm starving and cranky but I intend to win this battle" to help them get the idea. That whole "wish" thing is so annoying. There are tons of difference between how people feel about food and how they respond to hunger but I think you nailed the real, key differentiator – commitment. Once you commit to a plan and find one that works for you and stick with it the weight comes off. No amount of wishing will get you there – you have to do the work.

You are a model for that. 1500 cal/day is certainly less than your BMR and you are probably running about a 2000 cal/day deficit with the workouts. My guess is that your BMR is about 2500 cal/day and you probably burn an extra 1000 for a total caloric need of 3500 cal/day.

You could probably add back 500 calories a day and still reach your goal – it will just take a little longer.

Maybe when people tell you they ‘wish’ they could do what you are doing you could smile and say “I wish it were as easy as wishing. I’m starving and cranky but I intend to win this battle” to help them get the idea. That whole “wish” thing is so annoying.

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